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RFK jnr is a clear and present danger to American health
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/16HAgGd5W9/
Posted : 10/09/2025 6:45 am
Ok how about your Lebanese politician from QLD, Bob Katter?
Posted : 10/09/2025 11:00 am
Holmz wrote:
Ok how about your Lebanese politician from QLD, Bob Katter?
What about him? There is no comparison. He is hardly dismantling Australian democracy, putting troops on the streets, tanking the economy or dismantling the public health system.
Also, Australian democracy is still in place. Any one politician does not have autocratic power.
Posted : 10/09/2025 11:06 am
Alan March wrote:
What about him? There is no comparison.
Obviously it is possible to make a comparison, and I often hear people comparing the two.
Alan March wrote:
He is hardly dismantling Australian democracy, putting troops on the streets, tanking the economy or dismantling the public health system.
OK - I wasn’t sure that there was much of a public health system in the US.
In his first term DJT did get the vaccines pushed through in record time.
Oddly his base has the lion’s share of the anti-vaxxers.
The CDC went a bid downhill under Biden, and with the mandated “Kids need the vaccine” despite there is be no/little medical efficacy for that. And they suffered a loss of reputation and being politics free.
IMO - The tariffs and USAID may be more solid ground to base the displeasure on than medical and what happens in DC with the national guard.
Posted : 10/09/2025 11:17 am
Holmz wrote:
Obviously it is possible to make a comparison, and I often hear people comparing the two
Well, please go ahead. Let's hear how Bob is causing problems that are similar to the scope depth that the Trump regime is damaging the US with.
Holmz wrote:
In his first term DJT did get the vaccines pushed through in record time
Yes, and now he appointed RFK jr, an unqualified anti vaxxer to run the health dept. Trump just blows with the wind doing whatever he thinks is politically advantageous at the time.
Oh dont forget Trumps loony idea to inject bleach to cure covid.
Holmz wrote:
OK - I wasn’t sure that there was much of a public health system in the US.
True, the US is the only one of 33 developed nations that has no effective public health system.
However that's not really the issue here. RFK jr is totally unqualified and I'll informed to be running the health and human services depth. He is an anti science, anti vax crackpot. Have you seen the Senate videos above destroying his credibility. He doesn't understand the science, he misrepresents the data and is implementing policies that are damaging US citizens health.
Holmz wrote:
The CDC went a bid downhill under Biden, and with the mandated “Kids need the vaccine” despite there is be no/little medical efficacy for that.
Which vaccine? Please present the medical evidence that supports your assertion that there is "no medical efficacy".
Holmz wrote:
IMO - The tariffs and USAID may be more solid ground to base the displeasure on than medical and what happens in DC with the national guard.
You dont think that the federal government sending in troops to cities (uninvited by the state) is not something to be concerned about in a democratic nation? On the pretence its about tackling crime? Cities that just happen to be Democratic run, even when there are Republican cities with far worse crime issues.
This is all about the systematic dismantling of the US democracy by a fascist wannabe dictator. Part of includes dismantling and controlling government institutions.
What message do you think renaming the "dept of defense" to the "dept of war" gives to the rest of the world? It doesn't make Trump look strong as he thinks, it makes the US look aggressive and a potential problem. Like Putin the murderous dictator that Trump so admires.
Posted : 10/09/2025 11:47 am
Holmz wrote:
The CDC went a bid downhill under Biden, and with the mandated “Kids need the vaccine” despite there is be no/little medical efficacy for that.
Here are just a few areas where RFKjr has shown his lack of understanding, manipulation and misrepresentation of scientific data.
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1H78n8X5CF/
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1GZX7jRY2h/
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1B5gXXFZgd/
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1F93rvJynt/
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1aoDyt97ZW/
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1B3ZpTZrHh/
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/16u2QVdSnA/
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1MRZ4rpuGk/
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/19sv61dEwh/
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1ZBTgTtKrJ/
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/19yCZRpzdM/
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1EAHpiLhcA/
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1JdrTpCkix/
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/17CDRF9ykm/
Also
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1FTHH5Mf7h/
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/166m1PKiw9/
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1a4zwVm4mp/
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/19kJkXb7fA/
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/15ws7a9j5p/
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1BVzUzznTq/
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1LkqvRZxBE/
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1BR7nUfETR/
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1BDqo6MYTn/
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/16rynrPWFX/
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/17AUTdU1Xw/
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BCecbpHWg/
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1G8sEJWEyo/
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1CeeX6J5md/
Posted : 10/09/2025 12:14 pm
I’ll just drop this here.
I am not a doctor, nor a political pundit…
I am sort of just interested in Audio once in a while.
Posted : 10/09/2025 12:16 pm
Holmz wrote:I’ll just drop this here.
I am not a doctor, nor a political pundit…
I am sort of just interested in Audio once in a while.
Im not sure of your point here, but if its that I, or your goodself, shouldnt be commenting, then I will just say this.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
This is too important to ignore. It is and will affect us all, it isn't just a US issue.
The rise of a fascist dictatorship should be extremely concerning to everyone. Especially one the size and power of the US.
Posted : 10/09/2025 12:27 pm
Alan March wrote:
Im not sure of your point here, but if its that I, or your goodself, shouldnt be commenting, then I will just say this.“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
The other approach to take is that of Marcus Aurelius.
Alan March wrote:
This is too important to ignore. It is and will affect us all, it isn't just a US issue.The rise of a fascist dictatorship should be extremely concerning to everyone. Especially one the size and power of the US.
Posted : 10/09/2025 4:44 pm
Holmz wrote:
The other approach to take is that of Marcus Aurelius.
Which was:
“Choose not to be harmed and you won't feel harmed. Don't feel harmed and you haven't been.”
Problem is that people *are* being harmed in a multitude of ways. Its not a feeling or perception, its a reality.
Go and tell someone of previous generation that the rise of fascism in Europe in the 30s was just a perception that didn't cause any harm. You' ll probably get punched.
You dont really believe that no harm is coming to people from Trumps regime, do you?
Posted : 10/09/2025 5:09 pm
Posted : 10/09/2025 9:17 pm
Alan March wrote:
Which was:“Choose not to be harmed and you won't feel harmed. Don't feel harmed and you haven't been.”
You sort of got the wrong quote… but here are a few to consider:
Live out your life in truth and justice, tolerant of those who are neither true nor just
It isn’t manly to be enraged. Rather, gentleness and civility are more human, and therefore manlier. The nearer a man comes to a calm mind, the closer he is to strength
Alan March wrote:Problem is that people *are* being harmed in a multitude of ways. Its not a feeling or perception, its a reality.
Go and tell someone of previous generation that the rise of fascism in Europe in the 30s was just a perception that didn't cause any harm. You' ll probably get punched.
I am not going to Europe, to squeal to them about Marcus Aurelius.
I’d go back there for the culture or art, or look at the WWII sites like the ones around Ypres.
Alan March wrote:You dont really believe that no harm is coming to people from Trumps regime, do you?
They released their 2025 manifesto.
And people voted him in, in the same way that Bob Katter and Pauline Hanson were voted in.
The fact that people like facists is not really something that I am going take on, as “my problem”.
Posted : 11/09/2025 7:47 am
Holmz wrote:
You sort of got the wrong quote… but here are a few to consider
OK so from your quotes do you think I should tolerant of fascism? Tolerant of a pathological liar in charge of one of the most powerful nations in the world. Tolerant of someone who supports and enables a murderous dictator (putin). Someone who want to destroy democracy in the US and become a dictator himself.
You think its not "manly" to want to stand up against that?
Holmz wrote:
I am not going to Europe, to squeal to them about Marcus Aurelius.
I’d go back there for the culture or art, or look at the WWII sites like the ones around Ypres.
"Squeal". That indicates you think concerns about the rise of fascism and autocracy is something trivial. Perhaps when visiting WWII sites in Europe you would take time to look at the memorials and graves of all those that died protecting freedom against fascism.
It may appear crass on first inspection to say it, but its not. The parallels between the Nazi rise to power and what Trump is doing is frightening. The events and actions are almost identical. Trumps used it as an instruction manual.
Holmz wrote:
They released their 2025 manifesto.
And people voted him in, in the same way that Bob Katter and Pauline Hanson were voted in.
Did his Agenda47 manifesto say that he was going to break his oath to uphold the constitution? Override democracy by installing partisan supreme court judges who dont make decisions based on law, but only to support Trumps anti democratic agenda? Did it say he was going to invoke false emergencies to allow the bypass of congress? Did it say he was going to "disapear" people off the streets and deport people without due process? Did it say he was going to put troops on the streets in opposition states? Did it say he was going to attack the free press?
It did have some items that are explicitly against rights enshrined in the constitution. So these policies were lies that he had no power to implement - unless of course he fully intended to defy the constitution.
I could go on. The bottom line is that he lied about all of that. He lies every single day about what he is doing. There is absolutely no comparison to Katter or Hanson. Its disingenuous to suggest there is. This isn't about differing politics and views in a democratic society. Despite their political views neither of them have the intention to destroy Australian democracy and become dictators.
The MAGA mantra will of course be very appealing to many, but that was just the sales pitch. At best hopelessly unrealistic claims, at worst outright lies.
If the reality of Trumps policies and intentions had actually been outlined in his manifesto, then I suspect far fewer votes would have gone his way.
Holmz wrote:
The fact that people like facists is not really something that I am going take on, as “my problem”.
So you agree that Trump is a fascist.
You are talking as if this situation is something that doesn't affect us. It does. It already is. It is my problem and although you may not see it as so, it absolutely is your problem.
Have you thought about the global consequences of the US losing its democracy? Siding with other dictatorships such as Putins? Trump or his successor thinking they can do anything they want? The other two sections of government, congress and the judiciary are currently castrated. There are no checks and balances against the King.
Trump is against everything America stands for.
So it is absolutely my business, our business, to put the facts out there. So damn right I am going to keep "squealing" about it.
Posted : 11/09/2025 8:50 am
Alan March wrote:
OK so from your quotes do you think I should tolerant of fascism? Tolerant of a pathological liar in charge of one of the most powerful nations in the world. Tolerant of someone who supports and enables a murderous dictator (putin). Someone who want to destroy democracy in the US and become a dictator himself.You think its not "manly" to want to stand up against that?
"Squeal". That indicates you think concerns about the rise of fascism and autocracy is something trivial. Perhaps when visiting WWII sites in Europe you would take time to look at the memorials and graves of all those that died protecting freedom against fascism.
Its crass to say it, but the parallels between the Nazi rise to power and what Trump is doing is frightening. The events and actions are almost identical. Trumps used it as an instruction manual.
Did his Agenda47 manifesto say that he was going to break his oath to uphold the constitution? Override democracy by installing partisan supreme court judges who dont make decisions based on law, but only to support Trumps anti democratic agenda? Did it say he was going to invoke false emergencies to allow the bypass of congress? Did it say he was going to "disapear" people off the streets and deport people without due process? Did it say he was going to put troops on the streets in opposition states? Did it say he was going to attack the free press?
Did you read it?
Alan March wrote:
It did have some items that are explicitly against rights enshrined in the constitution. So these were lies that he has no power to implement - unless of course he yet again defies the constitution.I could go on. The bottom line is that he lied about all of that. He lies every single day about what he is doing. There is absolutely no comparison to Katter or Hanson. Its disingenuous to suggest there is. This isn't about differing politics and views in a democratic society. Despite their political views neither of them have the intention to destroy Australian democracy and become dictators.
How do you know their intentions?
Alan March wrote:
The MAGA mantra will of course be very appealing to many, but that was just the sales pitch. At best hopelessly unrealistic claims, at worst outright lies.If the reality of Trumps policies and intentions had actually been outlined in his manifesto, then I suspect far fewer votes would have gone his way.
You are a dreamer.
His supporters are behind him 100%.
Who is going to be swayed by facts, when they are being swayed by emotion?
Both sides are frothing at the chops, so it is a dream to believe that somehow facts are going to something that people all of a sudden will start to appreciate.
Alan March wrote:
So you agree that Trump is a fascist.You are talking as if this situation is something that doesn't affect us. It does. It already is. It is my problem and although may not see it as so, it absolutely is your problem.
Have you thought about the global consequences of the US losing its democracy? Siding with other dictatorships such as Putins? Trump or his successor thinking they can do anything they want?
Trump is against everything America stands for.
So it is absolutely my business, our business, to put the facts out there. So damn right I am going to keep "squealing" about it.
Whole countries do not know what to do, and even islands with penguins are unsure.
One person in Tenterden, or thereabouts, is not going to register.
It is like a Rottweiler worrying about what kind of bacteria is on a flea.
Half the people are behind him 100% and the other half opposed 100%. To the point that they are taking up arms.
The one thing that is noteworthy, is that you and Amir are in violent agreement on this topic.
I am probably going to work on that trigger cable for the p501s, as that is something that will be productive for me.
Posted : 11/09/2025 5:46 pm
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